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Lakshminarasimha Rao
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Hi,
I had used the command PRINT IDS(/) CH as sugested by one of our friend, i am getting the result as (Eg:)1 record found.
Can the data be read using the command ? |
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dick scherrer
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Hello Lakshminarasimha Rao and welcome to the forums,
Is your question related to this multi-year-old topic?
What is it you want to do? Your question is not at all clear. You've posted some command, but haven't explained just what you want for output.
If you will explain your requirement and provide a meaningful subject in your reply, i'll start a new topic for your question. |
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Lakshminarasimha Rao
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Hi Scherrer,
Actually, I want to know how can the VSAM files can be viewed through ISPF?
In that context only i have previously mentioned about PRINT IDS(/) CH command. |
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dick scherrer
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Hello,
As far as i'm aware, you need additonal software (i.e. FileAid) to properly view vsam data in your tso/ispf session.
Most who try the PRINT command are not happy with it.
You might ask your system support or storage management if there is some tool that you can use on your system. |
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ofer71
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How about DITTO?
O. |
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Aaru
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Lakshmi,
We use FILEAID to view a VSAM file. Type FA on the command prompt and see if it is available in your shop. |
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dick scherrer
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Hello,
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| Type FA on the command prompt and see if it is available in your shop. |
This may be site-specific or installation selectable.
On one of the systems i support, FileAid is available, but FA is an invalid command. |
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CICS Guy
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| Aaru wrote: |
| We use FILEAID to view a VSAM file. Type FA on the command prompt and see if it is available in your shop. |
If 'FA' is not valid, how long could it take a person to look at the TSO options (such as 'other software') and find if FileAid was there? Ask a cube mate? Ask a project leader? Ask tech suypport? |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi,
VSAM support in native ISPF is very limited; in particular, the EDIT, VIEW and BROWSE services do not support VSAM data sets. The VSAM Utilities (accessed via the 3.2.V option) is a multiple-panel ISPF dialog (vaguely recall, was introduced in ISPF V4) which only supports the DELETE, DEFINE and LISTCAT commands. The Delete (D) function in other ISPF utility functions (such as option 3.2, Data Set Utility or option 3.4, Data Set List) do not support VSAM; however, the TSO command DELETE (DEL) can be used on the Data Set List panel to delete a VSAM data set.
Several vendors offer VSAM editors which also provide a Browse capability; such as:
STARTOOL (Serena)
ISPF VSAM Utilities (MacKinney Systems)
MAX DATA/UTIL (MAX Software)
File-Aid (Compuware)
INSYNC (Macro4)
DITTO/ESA (IBM)
IBM File Manager
Text/E (4.ST)
CA-FileMaster Plus (CA)
VSERV (Phoenix Software)
File Marvel
But they are 'pay for the product' type.
HTH.. |
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CICS Guy
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| Anuj D. wrote: |
| But they are 'pay for the product' type. |
Ya missed IDCAMS......snicker.....It might take two steps, but it is free....grin..... |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi,
..  , BTW, are you talking about REPRO? |
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Lakshminarasimha Rao
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| Thanks Scherrer. |
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dick scherrer
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You're welcome
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superk
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| I wonder if there's an application on the CBT Tape? When I worked for CBT we had a TSO command (%LIST, IIRC), that allowed someone to view data in VSAM and SMF formats. |
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Aaru
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Dick,
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| On one of the systems i support, FileAid is available, but FA is an invalid command. |
Hmm s, You are right. In that case should i give FILEAID instead of FA?
Just confirm whether FA and FILEAID are 2 diff ways to chk if it is available. If not, how is it decided? |
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dick scherrer
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Hello Aaru,
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| Just confirm whether FA and FILEAID are 2 diff ways to chk if it is available. If not, how is it decided? |
Those may be ways on some systems - it will all depend on how the system is configured.
To find out what are the ways to execute FileAid on a system, i'd suggest talking with the system support people. It is nearly always on some menu, but there may be one or more shorcuts - all of which is site-specific. |
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Aaru
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Hello Dick,
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| To find out what are the ways to execute FileAid on a system, i'd suggest talking with the system support people. |
In my site i use 'FA' to use fileaid and it works. I had asked that ques just to get an idea on the different ways to use fileaid.
Anyways thanks for the details. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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| Aaru wrote: |
| In my site i use 'FA' to use fileaid and it works. |
Me too, on ISPF primary menu, F.FA and you are in File-Aid world..
One thing I don't understand here, why do they keep changing these options at different sites. May be, one site is paying for, say, ten out of all the options available for a product; & other site is using fifteen options out of all. If , say, eight options are common at both the sites, why dont they provide the same 'command name' for those..? What could be the probable reason behind...any guesses..? |
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dick scherrer
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Hello,
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| One thing I don't understand here, why do they keep changing these options at different sites. . . . . What could be the probable reason behind...any guesses..? |
IMHO, "they" aren't changing anything.
Look at your desktops (the one you sit at and the one with a bunch of icons). I suspect that very few of us have precisely the same definition of either. We have either set them up a way we prefer or they have been allowed to evolve to where they are now.
TSO/ISPF configurations are quite similar (IMHO).
I suspect there is also some of the "male dog syndrome" at work - it has to be "marked" so that others will know it is "our turf". |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hello Dick,
| dick scherrer wrote: |
IMHO, "they" aren't changing anything...
...We have either set them up a way we prefer or they have been allowed to evolve to where they are now. |
Fine, it means, these are personal prefrences of a shop(s) actually...? |
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dick scherrer
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Hi Anuj,
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| Fine, it means, these are personal prefrences of a shop(s) actually...? |
Yes, i would say so. |
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| The other thing is, a lot of shops will provide different ISPF main menus and different options to the user depending on their role within the organization. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi,
I see.. I understand. |
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The TSOVSAM document tells you how VSAM files are supported in TSO and ISPF; it's here: gsf-soft.com/Documents/TSOVSAM.shtml
The ISPF section of this document gives you pointers to free TSO/ISPF commands which you can use to Browse or View VSAM files. It also lists all the commercial products which are available. |
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