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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: while opening a file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE substituted
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Hi

I have copied one GDG file to a PS file . after that, while trying to open the PS file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE is substituted. i could not able to make changes in the file .

What would be the reason Please let me know

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject:
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The file is too big to be opened in edit mode.

When you logon to TSO do you see a field marked size. Try increasing it, but many sites do restrict the changing of this field and apply a default even if it is changed.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject:
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Or You can COPY data of interest with temporary selection..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply to: while opening a file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE s
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Hi,

if the file is big enough then it automatically opens in browse mode even we use V or E mode. If u want do changes in certain records means copy those records to some other temp file using SORT or OEM option and do the changes, if u need to do changes in whole file means use SORT utility with inrec and outrec fileds and do the changes. Hope this will help U.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject:
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Hi,

just wanted to improve my knowledge in this. can anyone please tell me what size is big enough for a file not to be opened in the EDIT mode?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply to: while opening a file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE s
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Hi,
When the file big it will open in browse mode only. It won't allow to open in edit mode. If you want to edit any data from that, better way you copy that data to another file by sort conditioning.

Gautaum big file means I don't know it's size how big it will be, but it may contain certain lakcs of records.

If I am wrong any where please correct me .....


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

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just wanted to improve my knowledge in this. can anyone please tell me what size is big enough for a file not to be opened in the EDIT mode?
This is specific to your site and/or your logon id.

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When you logon to TSO do you see a field marked size.
This field will give you the size and if you have trouble fiding it, you could talk with your system support people for the limit.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply to: while opening a file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE s
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Hi,

Just to add some more spice to the topic, you can use FileAid(Tool) to edit the records (even it has got the max file size).

I imagine you are not going to edit all the records, you can squeeze out the required data from the original file using condition and do your changes. ( if you do not want to replicate data by copying the original data using sort/copy you can use the above option).

Hope this helps you out in some means.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply to: while opening a file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE s
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the how big depends on how the system was setup

the region You see at logon id the size below the line < 16MB
for editing the memory/storage will be obtained above the line,

it all depends on the limit Your system programmers have defined for the storage above the LINE
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject:
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Hi,

I knew that the answer of this
Quote:
what size is big enough for a file not to be opened in the EDIT mode?
is site specific but didn't know that any such message
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at logon id the size below the line < 16MB
will be shown at the time of my log-in.

These are the messages which I got when I log-in, where to look for 'region' in question, please guide me..
Code:
ICH70001I Anuj  LAST ACCESS AT 09:58:24 ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 2, 2008
IKJ56455I Anuj LOGON IN PROGRESS AT 10:00:21 ON APRIL 2, 2008       
 This system is restricted to authorized users and business           
 purposes only.  Individuals attempting unauthorized access           
 and non-business utilization are liable for damages                   
 including the value of diverted resources and criminal               
 prosecution.                                                         
                                                                       
'Anuj.ISPF.PROFILE' used as ISPF profile dataset.                   
***                                                                   


Code:
Receiving NJE transmissions (if any).                                         
INMR003I You have no messages or data sets to receive.                       
                                                                             
Welcome to DIPN at ADC1                                                       
                                                                             
'Anuj.TSOUTIL.REALLOC' will be used to reallocate DDs.                     
Reallocating to ISPPLIB:                                                     
    'Anuj.MIBISPF1.ISPPLIB'                                               
    'XXX1.DIPN.ISPPLIB'                                                       
Reallocating to SYSEXEC:                                                     
    'Anuj.REXX.EXEC'                                               
    'Anuj.REXX.COMMAND'                                                   
    'XXX1.DIPN.EXEC'                                                         
Reallocating to SYSPROC:                                                     
    'XXX1.DIPN.ISPCLIB'                                                       
Reallocating to ISPSLIB:                                                     
    'XXX1.DIPN.ISPSLIB'                                                       
Reallocating to ISPMLIB:                                                     
    'XXX1.DIPN.ISPMLIB'                                                       
Reallocating to ISPTLIB:                                                     
    'XXX1.DIPN.ISPTLIB'                                                       
                                                                             
Your command from the TSO/E LOGON panel will be executed now                 
(if any was specified), followed by TSOLIB activation.                       
                                                                             
YOU HAVE 22 DAYS TO CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD.                                     
                                                                             
'Anuj.TSOUTIL.CLIST(STARTUP)' WILL NOW BE EXECUTED AS YOUR STARTUP CLIST. 
***                                                                           
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject:
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You should be able to see in the logon screen ( size parameter )

or from sdsf, da, s on Your tso userid,
You should see something like ...
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1 //ENRICO  JOB 'H001',REGION=4096K
2 //$$TSO1   EXEC $$TSO1
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply to: while opening a file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE s
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Hi,

Thanks for all your suggestions.

I got this resolved by using a SORT JCL.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject:
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Enrico,

ST solves my concern..
Code:
//Anuj JOB 'XXXXXXXXX',REGION=6144K
//$BSDUSER EXEC $BSDUSER               


Thnak You, I'm allowed little more region than You.. icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject:
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The bigger question is how much REGION are you allowed above 16 Mb? The default is 32Mb but it may be reduced via system exit.

I vaguely recall a TSO command to display the TSO session REGION limits, above and below. Anyone know of this?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply to: while opening a file in EDIT mode it says BROWSE s
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I vaguely recall a TSO command to display the TSO session REGION limits,
above and below. Anyone know of this?

Bill,

TSO ISPVCALL --- Is this what you are looking for ???

Code:
Max <16M: 4608K        In Use: 1616K         Avail: 2992K
Max >16M: 32768K       In Use: 6816K         Avail: 25952K


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject:
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Yes, syam, that's it. Thanks!

It appears you get the full 32Mb "above the line" but other sites may limit this.
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