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superk

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:58 pm
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I have a GDG base defined with LIMIT=10,SCRATCH, and NOEMPTY.

On frequent occasions, I'll find more than 10 cataloged datasets as part of the Generation Data Group. A LISTCAT of the entries shows them to be in a ROLLED-OFF status.

The job that creates these entries is cyclical, and I'd like to keep the last 10 generations for diagnostics when necessary.

I asked our Storage guru about this. His response was:

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The status of the dataset says it rolled off.

You may delete it.

There are many reasons a dataset may appear that it did not roll out of the catalog. The most common is a restore was performed and did not get sphere’d it back into the GDG.


I don't want to delete them. I don't want to have to monitor for this situation. There are many different GDG's on different LPAR's where this is happening. Does this situation seem normal?
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stodolas

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:57 pm
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I've seen files in that status. I have found it to be more like a "marked for rolloff". So when the storage mgmt agent thing comes through it knows which to delete because they are outside the 10 limit.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:24 am
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I've seen this happen when the dataset is created with a retention period or expiry date which prevents it from being deleted.


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superk

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:01 pm
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So, I take it from the responses that this is to be considered a normal situation?

I can put together a job to go out and LISTCAT the bases and look for the "ROLLED-OFF" datasets and delete them. It just seems sorta dumb to do something that I thought SMS was supposed to handle automatically.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:30 pm
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The only time that I've encountered this is when people have done a RECOVER from HSM, or Dfdss.

The only thing that I can think of is one of the settings in the MGMTCLAS in SMS that isn't set to EXPIRE when a GDG rolls off.

Might be worth talking to the storage bods.
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