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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Adhoc JCL?
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What is Adhoc JCL?
Is it a temperary fix( modified JCL) during producton issue..?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

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What is Adhoc JCL?
This is not industry standard terminology. Where (in what context) did you see this?

Usually "ad hoc" means "on the fly" or not part of the standard system.

A one-time run of something special might be considered ad hoc and the jcl submitted might be considered ad hoc jcl. Many database systems provide for ad hoc queries.

If you provide some detail, we may be able to provide more responses.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject:
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Hi,

There is a word in English-Dictionary 'Ad-hoc' which means 'unplanned' so yes this
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Is it a temperary fix( modified JCL) during producton issue..?

can fit in the definition of Ad-hoc JCL, else word 'ad-hoc' is not implicitly for JCL only.


**I think anyone from your seniors asked you to write such an JCL ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject:
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In my shop, ad-hoc JCL means a job that runs in production manually (without scheduler).

O.
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Anuj Dhawan

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject:
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Hi nprathap4u,

I would suggest you to provide the origin of such a question, then some here will be able to provide you a better suggestion.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Adhoc JCL?
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I would suggest that is a local jargon,

"AD HOC" comes from latin and it means
"EXPRESSLY FOR" or "CUSTOM BUILT" or "OUT OF STANDARD" or "UNIQUE"

for example "something was made - ad hoc - for a certain purpose"

any other use is not according the origin of the sentence,
but as long as people understand themselves .....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply to: Adhoc JCL?
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enrico-sorichetti wrote:
any other use is not according the origin of the sentence, but as long as people understand themselves .....

As long as some one is from English origin there is no problem. This problem would exist with the people who don't use English as first language...This type of wordings in replies might be disappointing for the TS..so I avoid these in previous replies.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Adhoc JCL?
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As long as some one is from English origin there is no problem. This problem would exist with the people who don't use English as first language...This type of wordings in replies might be disappointing for the TS..so I avoid these in previous replies.


Why this wording would be disappointing ???

in it' s original language the fragment "ad hoc" had a specific meaning
now somebody uses it in "computerese" to mean something that
has a some other meaning among a restricted group of people.
( and different groups give to it a different meaning ),

They cannot expect that people with a different background understand
the fragment in the same way, unless it is explained to them !

By any point You look at it,
it is not the meaning intended by the speakers of the original language !
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Anuj Dhawan

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject:
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Hi e-s,

I think we are going, a bit, out of topic. Lets stop here till TS comes again.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject:
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I learned somewhere, long ago that ad hoc meant "for this purpose only", which coincides with what Enrico stated.
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