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tarmizulm
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Planning to go for a Mainframe related training
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Good day to all,

I am planning to go for a Mainframe related training. However, I am not really sure what type of courses are suitable for me. Fee is not a problem since I can request supports from my company. Could someone please gives me some ideas or suggestions?

Additional info: Currently, I am working as a Support Engineer for an American Telco company (but based in MALAYSIA). The job scopes involve monitoring batch jobs (production), debugging/troubleshooting/resubmitting abended jobs,managing/updating datasets (if any) and sending data feeds to Unix server. I am using MVS,JCL,ESP,IBM utilities,File-Aid,ISPF, REXX (basic), ftp,Endevor.

Please ask me if anyone need further clarification about my background...THANKS!

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Joe.
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Devzee

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject:
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You are already doing some kind of Mainframe related support task.

What exactly you wanted training? You must decide what you want to be - Application programmer? System Programmer? Tech Architect? Admin role? DBA role? or do operation support.
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Anuj Dhawan

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject:
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Hi,

Devzee has given you a right direction. However, I hope, you are aware of the role & responsibilities of these positions, if yes, then you can choose your own path else you can share your 'bent of mind' with us & may be some good seniors here will come up with better suggestions.

Good Luck. icon_smile.gif
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tarmizulm
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject:
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Hi,

Thanks to Devzee & Anuj for your response. From your options (Devzee), I would say that I am prefer to work in operations support field, Previously Iwas a Developer and I dont think that I am comfortable with the development jobs. What I am looking for is something related to production support, tape/DASD management, tuning/scheduling of jobs, maintaining performance....maybe icon_cool.gif coz I am not really sure about this.

Hopefully, other seniors can figure out this for me, thanks!

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Joe.
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murmohk1

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject:
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Joe,

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scopes involve monitoring batch jobs (production), debugging/troubleshooting/resubmitting abended jobs,managing/updating datasets (if any) and sending data feeds to Unix server


I believe your current job profile is PRODUCTION SUPPORT.

Why dont you get more knowledge on the job rather than attending some theroy sessions.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject:
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Hi,

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tarmizulm wrote:
What I am looking for is something related to production support,

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tape/DASD management, tuning/scheduling of jobs, maintaining performance....maybe icon_cool.gif coz I am not really sure about this.


are different fields. Management of DASD etc. comes under 'System Guys' profile, while Production suport is supporting the Bugs of production for an application supported by the comapny in which you work.

For better understanding of Sytem Guys work, we can look forward for the comments of 'expat', one of the moderators here & about production support, I think you are well aware of.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Planning to go for a Mainframe related training
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Hello,


According to your query i need some more information so that i can help you .



Are you presently located in India ? May i know the nature of job that your working currently. So accordingly i can assist you.


what modules are you looking exactly to develop?


please tell me so that i can assist you


thank you,
Rhea
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject:
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good to see those kindly replies,

looking forward to more highlight reply due to I have the same problem!
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pushpalatha

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: system programmer
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Hi , curently I am in mainframe testing environment, i would like to go for system programmer...can some one give me idea , regarding where can I get training for the same , and how long it will take?



thanks in advance,
pushpa..
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

I'd suggest you talk with your manager about the possibility of your career progressing to the system programming group.
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pushpalatha

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject:
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thank you for your suggestion.
Its of no use , speaking to them., they dont provide tarining , as they want to keep the people in testing itself.. I have to learn outside and quit the company... could you please provide details about training if possible....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

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they want to keep the people in testing itself.. I have to learn outside and quit the company...
From my perspective, it sounds like the testing group is going to lose you either way, so keeping your skills and institutional knowledge in the company would have benefit over you leaving the company. As a manager, i've always told my people that if you tell me where you want to go, i'll help you get there.

As far as training for new system programmers, i am not familiar with what is available.

Hopefully, someone will post what might be available in your area.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject:
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Thank you...

pushpa..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Planning to go for a Mainframe related training
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You're welcome - good luck icon_smile.gif

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject:
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hi dick scherrer

I just wanted to know whether system progrmmer is too complex that we cant explore in that filed or what? because when i asked my manager he said dont go for that it is too complex that you cant handle...

let me know what kind of things involved in that system programmer if you know ..
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Hello,

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let me know what kind of things involved in that system programmer
There are many different types of things a system programmer might be involved with or specialize in. Depending on the size of the organization, the more specialization.

Among the areas system programmers support are the operating system, CICS, various database products (primarily installs, upgrades, and application of ptfs), storage management (dasd and tape), and 3rd party products like ROSCOE, Librarian, Panvalet, Omegamon, Syncsort, Schedulng software and so forth.

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when i asked my manager he said dont go for that it is too complex that you cant handle
Many managers do not understand much about system programming and that makes it seem more complex. How much experience do you have? If only a short time, that may be what the manager was referring to. It may also be that the manager wants to keep you in the group rather than have you move to another group.

Personally, i do not see system programming as "too complex". It is just another discipline. Different aptitudes are needed for many of the disciplines within Information Technology.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject:
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thanks much for your information dick scherrer..

by the way I have 2.7 years of exp in mainframes testing environment..

anyway i am planning to take training for the system programmer, in some institute....


regards,
pushpalatha....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Planning to go for a Mainframe related training
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Good luck icon_smile.gif

Someone will be here if there are questions as you study.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject:
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thank u..I hope the same as you said.....
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