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PRABHATH
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: can we get back uncataloged dataset
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Hi,

Can we get back a dataset which is uncataloged and we dont remember the volume serial?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject:
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Can we get back a dataset which is uncataloged and we dont remember the volume serial?

Yes its possible.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: HI.......
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Prabhath,


You should knw the volume serial that will say where your dataset was stored and from that u can able to get the uncataloged data set and you should knw the data set name too .
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject:
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Vasanth,

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You should knw the volume serial that will say where your dataset was stored

In broader sense you are correct.

Provided you know the dataset name and Assuming you had forgot the volume (as said in original post), you can get the volume serial. From there ....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: HI
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Dear Murli,


If i have forgotten both, means dataset name as well as volume serieal number can we able to get the dataset, if it is uncatalog means it will not be available in the system catalog......

pls tell me if u knw the technology in which dataset can be extracted with out having volume serial and dataset name

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject:
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Hi,

But why one would like to just uncatalogue a dataset instead of completely deleting it ? Can anyone please tell me such a business requirement?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject:
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Vasanth,

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If i have forgotten both, means dataset name as well as volume serieal number can we able to get the dataset,

MF is not desinged either to read your mind or to understand your feelings.

Read original and my post properly. Both says 'forgot the volume but not the dataset'.

Also please don't forgot even the arbitrary dataset (which you want to retrive) has some name.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject:
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Dear Murli,

I had understood ur post clearly?

what u said is vice versa both are same?

If u knw either dataset name or the volume serial u can able to get the data set.

But i need to knw the technology if u dont knw both, how can we able to get that dataset, because any thing can be possible with mainframe technology which is related to business, so, by this we can share the technology not the mindset or feelings.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject:
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Vasanth,

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But i need to knw the technology if u dont knw both, how can we able to get that dataset, because any thing can be possible with mainframe technology which is related to business

Provide any example for this.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Murali,

Can you tell me the way the dataset can be retrieved without referring to SMF records.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Vasant,

its true that we can get the dataset if we know the volser. but my question is incase we dont remember the volser,then how can we retrieve the dataset.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Prabhath

If u dont knw the volser.

if u knw the data set name go to the 3.2 option and try to allocate a dataset its attricutes will be displayed for you since it is uncataloged, from that get tha volume serial number then u can get the data set in the same place where it was uncataloged

If am incorrect correct me, murli.......

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply to: can we get back uncataloged dataset
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If i have forgotten both, means dataset name as well as volume serieal number can we able to get the dataset


YES,
since You forgot everything, just pick a dataset at random
and there will be a 1/number_of_datasets_in_your_installation chance
for You to get the right one,

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject:
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Prabath,

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Can you tell me the way the dataset can be retrieved without referring to SMF records.

You can try LISTDSD function (TSO LD). Please remember it requires authorization.

It seems Vasanth has other ideas for getting the volume.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

If you do not know the dataset name and you don't know the volume where it "lived", what do you intend to look for? I do not believe that looking for "some dataset" on "some volume" will accomplish anything.

You might want to review the interview question and make sure you are clear on the requirement.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject:
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Well you could look at using DFdss to scan the volumes for non catalogued datasets. It may take a long time though.
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