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HSM Tape Error when trying to recall a dataset

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: HSM Tape Error when trying to recall a dataset
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Received this error when trying to recall a dataset. Is this fixable. Thanks for the help !



EDG4026I VOLUME A00079 REJECTED. FIRST FILE HDR1 NAME 00000000000000000 DOES NOT MATCH RECORDED NAME
EDG4026I CONT:- SYS6.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
EDG4006E VOLUME A00079 ON 0809 REJECTED FOR USE BY HSMA, HSMA, RESIN1, OPEN REQU
IEC502E R 0809,, ,SL,HSMA,HSMA
IEC145I 413-08,IFG0194K,HSMA,HSMA,RESIN1,0809,,SYS6.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

Well, it doesn't look good. . . .

Are your volumes mounted by hand or by robot? What are the chances that there are 2 physical volumes with that volser?

If there are 2 and they are not in a silo, the wrong volume may have been mounted. Volume A00079 is a quite low number and if it has been re-initialized on a replacement volume, there may be a mix-up.

Someone may be able to add more here - i believe there is a way to see what info is on the problem archive tape, but i don't know hsm well enough to describe how. I talk with the storage management people for this kind of help icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject:
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dick scherrer wrote:
Hello,

Well, it doesn't look good. . . .

Are your volumes mounted by hand or by robot? What are the chances that there are 2 physical volumes with that volser?

If there are 2 and they are not in a silo, the wrong volume may have been mounted. Volume A00079 is a quite low number and if it has been re-initialized on a replacement volume, there may be a mix-up.

Someone may be able to add more here - i believe there is a way to see what info is on the problem archive tape, but i don't know hsm well enough to describe how. I talk with the storage management people for this kind of help icon_smile.gif


It's in a silo, I'm able to deternmine what info is on the tape through HSM and I tried recalling one of the datasets on it again and received the same message.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

I just refreshed my memory on the IEC145I message (You do realize that this error is an i/o error while trying to position the tape?). Originally, i was thinking content was the problem icon_redface.gif

Two thoughts come to mind - the tape is damaged or the drive needs to be cleaned/re-calibrated.

Can you verify if the same drive was used in both recall attempts?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject:
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dick scherrer wrote:
Hello,

I just refreshed my memory on the IEC145I message (You do realize that this error is an i/o error while trying to position the tape?). Originally, i was thinking content was the problem icon_redface.gif

Two thoughts come to mind - the tape is damaged or the drive needs to be cleaned/re-calibrated.

Can you verify if the same drive was used in both recall attempts?



No it was tried 3 times and used 3 different drives so it must be the tape. Does that mean the contents are lost ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject:
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek - It looks to me as if the tape label is sqiffy.

Some suggestions.

My first suggestion would be to find out which files have valid backup versions and then HDELETE those files, recover from backup, and remigrate them.

If there are any that do not have backups - check the expiration of these files, if they are short term, less than a month, sit back and hope noone wants to recall them.

Maybe, just maybe, you could remove the original A00079 from the silo and create a new volser A00079. Then use BLP on the input and whatever to bypass your TMS to copy the original to the new, then run AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS on the new A00079.

Last time I done this, many many years ago, it was outside of a silo, but if you remove the label and use the original as a foreign tape it might just work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject:
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Just had a quick thought ..................... icon_confused.gif

Try the AUDIT MEDIACONTROLS before you try anything else.
Is this tape volume part of a connected set ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject:
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Hello,

Not necessarily. You may be able to salvage some of the content.

Different organizations have different tools to recover data from damaged media. You might talk with your storage, operations, or system support people to see if there is anything in place at your location.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject:
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Dick,

I somehow suspect that the OP is a storage guy icon_eek.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject:
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Dick,

I somehow suspect that the OP is a storage guy icon_eek.gif


LOL !! I am but I have very little experience. Our storage guy quit and they've given me the opportunity to learn it. I come from 15 years of being a production support analyst, JCL VSAM etc.

I thought of the restoring from backup as well. It may take awhile but at least nothing will be lost.

Thanks for the help everyone.
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Just think - you'll get bunches of experience now icon_smile.gif

We're here if we can be of assistance.

Good luck icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject:
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I've done 20+ years of storage, when it was real fun in the old days, classic DASD - none of this RAID & CACHE technology. Corrrr, you youngsters just don't know how easy you have it these day icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

The RMM message says that the tape HDR1 isn't right, which leads me to think the tape may have been written over, or initialised in error.

If you use IEBGENER to print the label off - it might give you some clues.

Code:

//SYSUT1   DD DSN=mydsn,DISP=SHR,
//            LABEL=(1,BLP),RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,
//            VOL=SER=A00079
//SYSUT2   DD SYSOUT=*


I had a situation where VM grabbed tapes that were scratch at the start of the day, had been used by HSM, but VM then grabbed the tape and overwrote it by bypassing CA1. Hope you don't have the same icon_eek.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject:
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Sorry to open the topic again

what are the DCB informations that I need to Keep here in SYSUT1?

I m asked to print the label of certain set of tapes. I or the person who has asked me to print the label info, dont know what is there in the tape.

Unfortunately the tape dont ve the entry in TMS also. I ve no Idea abt the DCB info of the Tape, Please suggest me how to print the label of the tape now..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject:
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You could have started a new topic. It might have been better.

Code:
//READLABL EXEC PGM=IEBGENER                 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*                       
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*                       
//SYSUT1   DD DSN=Whatever you like,
//            DISP=SHR,                     
//            UNIT=(unit,1,DEFER),         
//            LABEL=(1,BLP),EXPDT=98000,     
//            RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80, 
//            VOL=SER=nnnnnn                 
//SYSUT2   DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=BLKSIZE=80       
//SYSIN    DD DUMMY
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject:
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Thanks Expat.

I tried the code u ve given, but this is what I got.. I quickref-ed the msg "IEFTMS50" also but didnt get whats the error..



Code:

IEFTMS50 1XX- 08 SYS6123A,STEP1   ,SYSUT1  ,3241,V27051,0001,SYS6123A.R1375198
IEFTMS50 ***** CA-1 ABEND,F1,00 *****                  **                     
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  271                                               
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=1FB  REASON CODE=00000000                               
 TIME=09.47.37  SEQ=53354  CPU=0000  ASID=0037                                 
 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   80C6AB90  ILC 2  INTC 0D                     

Did it make any sense?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply to: HSM Tape Error when trying to recall a dataset
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IEFTMS... are messages from CA-1( the tape management system )
look what the F1 abend means for it

also look at the ...
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=1FB

are You running JES3 ??
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject:
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The 1FB means your site is using SVC FB (251) for CA-1. The -08 has meaning:
Quote:
A data set has been opened for
input or with DISP=MOD, and
the data set name specified in
the JCL does not match the
data set name in the TMC. The
data set has probably been
created outside the control of
CA 1.
with corrective action of:
Quote:
If the tape was created
outside the control of CA 1,
update the data set name in
the TMC to specify the correct
data set name. If a DASD
restore or other problems
destroyed the TMC, restore the
TMC using TMSCOPY. (If this is
a recurring problem, consult
with Technical Support at
http://ca.com/support. for
assistance.)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject:
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Thanks for the help.

I could manage to print the Tape label with Expat's code only.
I think the problem in the previous run that gave the CA1 error may be bcos, when I ran the job, I was also enquiring the same tape simultaneously. So it may have caused the abend.

But when I ran the job today it ran like a champ ad I got the reqd output.

Thanks for the help
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