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Why DB2 is supporting only LDS and not any other

 
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usha.ushaa

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Why DB2 is supporting only LDS and not any other
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Can anyone explain why DB2 is supporting only LDS and not any other
VSAM datasets.
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Usha
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usha.ushaa

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: db2
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Actually tablespace is an LDS and an index is also an LDS . How these
two are correlated(for eg: if I delete a table the index is also deleted)
how this happens?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

What you are asking about is the IBM design of DB2. These are not something dba/programmer/etc people have any control over.

There is no good reason for these - it is just they way db2 was implemented.

DB2 is designed to only work on "tables" and the other types ov files are not db2 tables. . .

If this is not what you wanted, please let us know.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject:
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If you don't like the way DB2 operates you can always write your own version.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Dick Scherrer,

Yeah I understand Db2 is designed in such way so it uses only LDS, but back in old days, Db2 used ESDS and now LDS is standard, so my question is what is the reason so Db2 switched to LDS from ESDS. LDS has any benefit over ESDS or something else?


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Pavan Chauhan
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:15 pm    Post subject:
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I believe Mr Scherrer passed away.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:38 pm    Post subject:
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i am sorry
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:39 pm    Post subject:
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anyone else can answer my question?
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Robert Sample

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:42 pm    Post subject:
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Yes, Mr. Scherrer passed away about 5 years ago.

IBM does not provide any rationales for why they do things, but I would guess the byte-oriented nature of LDS and its lack of record structure compared to ESDS may have something to do with why they switched. However, unless you work for IBM's DB2 group it is EXTREMELY unlikely that you will ever find out the precise reasons for the change.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:58 pm    Post subject:
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Pavan, Btw it’s DB2 and not Db2 unless yours belongs to IbM.

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp4187.pdf
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John Poulakos

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject:
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ESDS datasets are extremely unstable and don't follow standards dictated by the Access Control Block architecture.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:41 am    Post subject:
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Pavan, Btw it’s DB2 and not Db2 unless yours belongs to IbM.


It is Db2 not DB2 anymore. IBM rebranded a lot of stuff - http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/899/ENUSLP18-0047/index.html&request_locale=en

Db2 is correct.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:13 am    Post subject:
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No more old school philosophy, that’s great to know thanks
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