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superk

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:06 am    Post subject: Topics Not Eligible for Discussion
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Moderators -

I would like to place a new Topic in the "FAQ" forum, describing commonly recurring topics which don't merit any further discussion.

My thought is that the new topic would be moved to the "Off Topics" forum, locked, and a link provided to this "FAQ" as an explanation.

These are the topics I'm thinking of. Maybe y'all have some others to consider:

JCL - changing the MAXCC of the job.
JCL - running steps in a different order than coded.
JCL - specifying certain steps for rerun.
JCL - overrides to nested PROC's.
JCL - adding date and/or time stamps to datasets.
JCL - how to code an FTP.

REXX - how to code an EDIT macro.
REXX - how to get a list of member names from a PDS.

COBOL - reading a dataset backwards.

General - how to transfer a file.
General - questions on Certifications.
General - how to submit a job from COBOL/JCL/REXX.
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William Thompson

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject:
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Sounds nice, might take a little work.
There are going to be minor differences, we are going to have to be careful to not slam all similar requests into the heap. And we are going to have to keep updating the FAQ entries with additional information.
Do you realize that this could give Frank more free time than he might know what to do with?
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Frank Yaeger

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject:
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Do you realize that this could give Frank more free time than he might know what to do with?


For DFSORT, I have something similar in my "Smart DFSORT Tricks" which I point to often. It does help; I'm sure there are many people who do use the "Tricks" and never post, but of course we never hear from those people. The ones we do hear from are the ones who either don't recognize that a trick matches their situation, or who have a situation that's a bit different so they can't figure it out. I don't know what would work with those people.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject:
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For DFSORT, I have something similar in my "Smart DFSORT Tricks" which I point to often.

Maybe we can create "COBOL questions" or "MF FAQ" analogous to DFSORT tricks document and make it available in download section.
Many people will help for editing/correcting if needed.
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superk

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject:
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agkshirsagar wrote:
Maybe we can create "COBOL questions" or "MF FAQ" analogous to DFSORT tricks document and make it available in download section.
Many people will help for editing/correcting if needed.


I know this has been proposed before. I don't recall that anyone volunteered to actually write the document.

I'm not looking to replicate Wikipedia here. I just want an agreement to identify and stop repetitive, non-productive discussions. They really degrade the quality and professionalism of this Forum.
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject:
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Hello,

A thought i had earlier today, but still haven't been able to put into words well is something like:

[jumbled thougt]
what if, rather than publishing some kind of large document (it would surely continue to grow) each of the "needs no more forum time" topics was included in the list (looks like SuperK has already put together a good start) and a link to an existing topic that seems to cover that question (also as suggested). i also believe that "no" is a quite proper answer sometimes (i.e. can we execute a steps in a proc out of order?) - especially if there is a link to the explanation. That topic and the MAXCC reset do make me a little crazy sometimes icon_neutral.gif

Continuing to ramble, i sometimes puzzle about how to guide but not be too harsh - knowing full well some things just need to be done with. The moving/locking idea sounds quite attractive.

We can always modify the process once we have something in place if need be.
[/jumbled thougt]

Long week today. . .

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject:
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I would like to place a new Topic in the "FAQ" forum, describing commonly recurring topics which don't merit any further discussion.

Let's give it a try and see what happens. If it cuts down on duplicate posts then it has to be a good idea.

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I'm sure there are many people who do use the "Tricks" and never post, but of course we never hear from those people.

I do use the documents that Frank has supplied, but occasionally do post a request, but for most of the time the documentation gets me through with a bit of trial and a lot of error icon_eek.gif
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject:
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If it cuts down on duplicate posts then it has to be a good idea.


Unfortunately, I don't think there would be any way to tell if that happened. How do you count a non-posted post? icon_wink.gif
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