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What does Force Completion of a Job Means?


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shitij

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:59 am
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Hi,

Please could someone tell me what exactly do we mean by force completion of a job?



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Shitij
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guptae

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:20 am
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Hi Shitij,

Topic is already discussed

www.ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?t=17675&highlight=force+completion+job
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shitij

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:49 am
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Thanks, the process is clear to me.

But then we would have to be sure that force completion of the jobs have no impact downstream.

I mean if we have an output file which is being used in a downstream job (which is triggered)...then we just cant force complete this initial job, can we?

...so I think proper analysis is required before force completion and we just cant force complete a job without knowing its impact downstream.

Please could someone throw more light.
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:05 am
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Hello,

Production jobs should be under the care and feeding of the Scheduling and/or Operations people.

I can think of no good reason for anyone else to issue a "force complete".

Yes, analysis is required for this and any other exception situation.

Often, a "Force Complete" is used to re-sync the scheduling software with what has actually happened on the computer.

For a better understanding of how/if this is used at your location, i'd suggest talking with the Scheduling and/or Operations people.
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ballalsachin

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:15 am
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force completion is typically done when there is a Job dependency.

If the successor job has a dataset dependency, and the dataset is getting created in the current job, you better analyse before issuing a FC for the current job.

But if the job just updates some VSAM files, or Updates the database and abends in case of no Inputs, you can issue a FC with a little analysis..
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:18 pm
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Hello,

Yes, i agree with ballalsachin in that analysis should be done prior to issuing a Force Complete.

If, after analysis, the determination is made that a Force Complete is needed, it should be coordinated with the Scheduling/Operations people.

Making those kind of changes outside of the Production area causes more problems than it fixes. If they do it, they will have a record and there should be no later surprises or confusion.
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