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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: How do u see the copybook record structure
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how do u see the copybook record structure ?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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may be spool.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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thanks HARIBHARAT
i got the answer... Option 13.2.13
File manager icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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13.2.13 what it mean?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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ISPF option
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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i gave ispf 13.2.13,it shown invalid command.

it is not show anything
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Haribharat ,

Go to file manager then gave 3(Utility Functions) then give 13 (Copybook)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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oh sry !! icon_cry.gif
it is 13.2.3.13

but u cannot directly go to this menu
u have to navigate step by step
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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where is file manger located? i search , i did not get?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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13.2 is file manger icon_mad.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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i know 13.2 file manger,but it is showthe invalid option my system

anyother way??
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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yes....dump ur system icon_evil.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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rachana189 wrote:
yes....dump ur system icon_evil.gif
Not very nice, you children should play nicely.......You should both realize that the assignment of numbers (and letters) on those menus is not necessarily "poured in concrete", and can be different at different shops.
Ok, rachana189, HARIBHARAT got to File Manager, now what option of File Manager did you use, not the number, but the text next to the number?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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Utilities(3) then Copybook(13) icon_rolleyes.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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ya,i understood both are diff shop, still i did not find file manger.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

Back to the original question.

Find the dsn for the copylib dataset. Go into View (usually option 1 from the Primary Option Menu) and enter the Data Set Name. When the list of members is displayed, place an 's' beside the copybook you want to see. You will be able to see the copybook fields.

If your site has FileAid, use the View function (in FileAid) and you can see a formatted layout of your copybook. This view will give you the length and displacement of each field.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: copybook structure
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject:
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Thats only if you have File Manager Installed on your system.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

Actually it is in File-Aid at many sites like the earlier post says.

I'm not familiar with File Manager, but it may be there as well. Compuware also has tools that format copybooks to help with abend analysis.

Hopefully, TS has gotten what was needed? icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: How do u see the copybook record structure
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Let's be clear here.

An ISPF option like 1.2.5.7.9.0 is just a fastpath through the panels.
Any of the panels can have (and almost certainly will have) been tailored for additional options or facilities, local utilities, the variations are almost limitless.

IBM FileManager is what I believe we are talking about and it is IBM's competitor to FileAid, aimed to hit users of FA that don not require all of its many and varied features. Having said that it is very full function and compares with FA in both Foreground and Background processing.
I happen to like it and have, in fact, had occasion to customize it at Customers' in the past.

It is one of the AD Tools raft of products which are purchased separately from IBM so may or may not exist at any installation. Furthermore it can as easily be at 3.77.F as it can U.1 depending on the (installation standards or) zaniness of your sysprogs!

If you look at the panelid for option 13.2 and browse the panel itself (TSO ISRDDN; L ISPPLIB; find member <panelid>) and see what PGM/CMD/PANEL is in the ZSEL for option 13 there the that will be the option.
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